“Not to blame the victim, but-“
Nope, your argument stops there. I can’t do anything with posts like this, and I won’t even try. If you’re not trying to blame the victim, you wouldn’t bring them into it. You wouldn’t bring “but” into the situation either.
Usually if you have to insert “but” into something like this, what comes before the “but” is invalidated.
TW: Abuse and sexualizing underage girls
The section defining why Shigure was a hated character felt a tad off. It said that Shigure cared for no one in the series, but it’s clear that he does at least care for his friends, and, while manipulative, he isn’t sociopathic. Selfish, yes, but he isn’t incapable of feeling love.
The next account against Shigure was that he was underdeveloped. Just because a character does not have pages and pages devoted to back story, that does not mean there aren’t other ways of developing characters. Fruits Basket is a well-written manga, and much is said between the lines. You can extrapolate Shigure’s character through his actions, through other flashbacks, through his actions, etc. He is developed just as much, if not more, than any other character in the series.
As for him not really loving Akito, again, it’s clear that he’s hurt when Akito sleeps with Kureno. If he didn’t care about her, then why would he try to sleep with his mom in order to get back at her? People usually don’t lash out in anger unless they’re hurt in some way. Additionally, if he didn’t care about Akito, why would other women bore him so much? Remember that one flashback where we learn Shigure dated the main trio’s teacher? He didn’t give a crap about her—yet when he’s with Akito, he seems far more interested.
To say he is one note or one dimensional—seriously, did you even READ the manga?
Okay, your opinions on most of these I don’t want to dispute because they are your opinions, and that’s what you got out of the series. While I might not always agree, that’s within your right to take away from the story.
I will be focusing on the bolded section:
If he didn’t care about her, then why would he try to sleep with her mom in order to get back at her? People usually don’t lash out in anger unless they’re hurt in some way.
This… makes me very uncomfortable for a few reasons. Hurting another person intentionally (physically or emotionally) to get revenge is not a healthy way of expression affection. This does not prove “love.” This proves that he wants to hurt Akito. I can guarantee that no one will want a “love” that is as toxic as this. Do you want someone who says they “love” you to sleep with your mother out of revenge? Would you think that proves “love”? Do you want someone to tell you that the only reason they’re hurting you is that they “love” you? To me, it proves more of an obsession and it’s abusive. Love, to me, does not equal intentionally hurting the person you want to be with. It just doesn’t. It’s petty, and it’s cruel.
Additionally, if he didn’t care about Akito, why would other women bore him so much? Remember that one flashback where we learn Shigure dated the main trio’s teacher? He didn’t give a crap about her—yet when he’s with Akito, he seems far more interested.
This is an honest question: Don’t you think the reason Shigure seems so interested in Akito rather than other women is because he sees Akito as a way to get what he wants? Power, control, possibly physical pleasure (but I think that might be lower on his to-do list). Shigure is a womanizer and perverted (not in the “cute” way people like to say he is). He sexualizes underage girls, and plays it off like nothing. That’s not “cute”… That’s actually very, very gross. He doesn’t respect any woman. He didn’t “give a crap” about the lady he was dating, because he doesn’t give a crap about anyone if they can’t do anything to help him. I really, really doubt he would show any “affection” for Tohru if she wouldn’t have cooked, cleaned, and helped eventually break the curse for him.
Shigure uses everyone. Shigure cares about himself.
You can like him as a character all you want. You can love him, think he’s wonderfully developed, devote blogs to him… It doesn’t matter to me. But when you start saying that he “loves” Akito when all he does is try to control and hurt her while he sexualizes and degrades all other women… I can’t support that.
This reminds me of a discussion we had in school, and one girl was talking about living in fear of her safety because she is a girl, and this guy chimed in and was all “It’s hard for guys too! I’m so awkward around girls! It’s embarrassing!” Yeah, not the same thing, exactly?
This reminds me of an article about online (heterosexual) dating that I read a while ago. It listed men’s and women’s worst fears about meeting someone from online. The highest ranked fear that men had was that their date would be fat, whereas the highest ranked fear that women had was that their date would turn out to be violent and kill them.
I think that says a lot.
Always reblog. Also, this is the dynamic between most privileged and oppressed groups. I don’t feel like most people understand that.
film about a group of men getting into shenanigans= “comedy”
film about a group of women getting into shenanigans= “chick flick”
film about a friendship between two men= “buddy flick”
film about a friendship between two women= “chick flick”
emotional film about father/son relationships= “drama”
emotional film about mother/daughter relationships= “chick flick”
film about a young man finding identity= “coming of age”
film about a young woman finding identity= “chick flick”